Comments on: Colorado: Where Obama, Romney, and Pot Collide http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/ Legalize marijuana Sat, 18 May 2013 10:36:58 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: normanb http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6475 normanb Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:06:47 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6475 Colorado also has an environmental movement. So, these 3 anti-science candidates, Obama-Romney-Johnson, all taking money from Fracking companies, all climate-change-denying and all associated with the climate-change-denying Koch brothers.... ...and Jill Stein on the ballot... Colorado also has an environmental movement. So, these 3 anti-science candidates, Obama-Romney-Johnson, all taking money from Fracking companies, all climate-change-denying and all associated with the climate-change-denying Koch brothers….

…and Jill Stein on the ballot…

]]> By: normanb http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6474 normanb Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:01:27 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6474 One difference between Gary Johnson and Marijuana Legalization advocate Jill Stein, the Green Party's nominee, is that Johnson accepts thousands in donations from Natural Gas companies, one of the main opponents of Marijuana, because of Hemp's energy potential. http://my.firedoglake.com/normanb/2012/08/21/join-now-president-jill-steins-sticky-green-new-deal-hemp-for-victory/ One difference between Gary Johnson and Marijuana Legalization advocate Jill Stein, the Green Party’s nominee, is that Johnson accepts thousands in donations from Natural Gas companies, one of the main opponents of Marijuana, because of Hemp’s energy potential.

http://my.firedoglake.com/normanb/2012/08/21/join-now-president-jill-steins-sticky-green-new-deal-hemp-for-victory/

]]> By: magilla http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6473 magilla Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:58:23 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6473 The crux of the marijuana issue is not marijuana. It is the break with reality by politicians and policy makers which has created this train wreck. But it serves the purpose of making the public accept truly delusional behavior from those who make our laws. They need to know its not OK to be batshit crazy when they mobilize SWAT teams to kill your dog, kick in your door, ransack your house, and march you off to jail, or force you into mental health treatment you don't need. The crux of the marijuana issue is not marijuana. It is the break with reality by politicians and policy makers which has created this train wreck. But it serves the purpose of making the public accept truly delusional behavior from those who make our laws. They need to know its not OK to be batshit crazy when they mobilize SWAT teams to kill your dog, kick in your door, ransack your house, and march you off to jail, or force you into mental health treatment you don’t need.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6472 DWBartoo Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:46:12 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6472 If Obama and Romney can ignore serious, costly, and expensive "foreign" issue such as the war in Afghanistan ... which BOTH intend to pursue well into the future, then they'll have not the slightest problem ignoring any domestic issue, like the effects on the economy of the "too-big-to-fail" bankers and fraudsters, or like marijuana ... even in Colorado. How might you propose, Jon, that the issue be put before them? Neither Obama or Romney care to read ANY of the signs of the times ... and even if there is widespread support from both the so-called left and right ... where and how is that meaningful, even if Johnson were to "win" the state ... he would simply have to give his "support" to one or other of the legacy party candidates ... else SCOTUS would step in and declare that one or other of the big boyz had "won". You have a touching affinity for hoping that reason or rational thought is going to, somehow, find traction in Colorado, is going to, some way, impact the "outcome" of the election ... For all of our sakes, I hope that you may be correct, however, I will not holder my breath nor expect that, this time, any small discomfort experienced by the legacy candidates in Colorado will spill over or "translate" into any meaningful change in the stated "positions" of O or R ... If the endless war on drugs were allowed to end, then the entire authoritarian edifice would begin to crumble and fall to the ground from the gravity of widespread realization ... rather like those building did in NYC, before the last endless wars were begun ... one of which was started on the basis of bald-faced lies. It is an intractable few, we are dealing with, and they cannot countenance ANY threat to their power or "authority" ... DW If Obama and Romney can ignore serious, costly, and expensive “foreign” issue such as the war in Afghanistan … which BOTH intend to pursue well into the future, then they’ll have not the slightest problem ignoring any domestic issue, like the effects on the economy of the “too-big-to-fail” bankers and fraudsters, or like marijuana … even in Colorado.

How might you propose, Jon, that the issue be put before them?

Neither Obama or Romney care to read ANY of the signs of the times … and even if there is widespread support from both the so-called left and right … where and how is that meaningful, even if Johnson were to “win” the state … he would simply have to give his “support” to one or other of the legacy party candidates … else SCOTUS would step in and declare that one or other of the big boyz had “won”.

You have a touching affinity for hoping that reason or rational thought is going to, somehow, find traction in Colorado, is going to, some way, impact the “outcome” of the election …

For all of our sakes, I hope that you may be correct, however, I will not holder my breath nor expect that, this time, any small discomfort experienced by the legacy candidates in Colorado will spill over or “translate” into any meaningful change in the stated “positions” of O or R …

If the endless war on drugs were allowed to end, then the entire authoritarian edifice would begin to crumble and fall to the ground from the gravity of widespread realization … rather like those building did in NYC, before the last endless wars were begun … one of which was started on the basis of bald-faced lies.

It is an intractable few, we are dealing with, and they cannot countenance ANY threat to their power or “authority” …

DW

]]> By: defogger http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6471 defogger Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:31:05 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6471 O bama lied and said the mean old pubs wouldn;t let him move on med , weed,and someone called him out and said he could use exec. power to instantly reclassify it .That's simple ,irreversible and not going to happen.Obama is merely a marketing hologram of old pub ideas ,and to believe he actually gives a shit about anyone other than himself is to be mentally retarded by institutional conformity . h O bama lied and said the mean old pubs wouldn;t let him move on med , weed,and someone called him out and said he could use exec. power to instantly reclassify it .That’s simple ,irreversible and not going to happen.Obama is merely a marketing hologram of old pub ideas ,and to believe he actually gives a shit about anyone other than himself is to be mentally retarded by institutional conformity .

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]]> By: matthewj http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6470 matthewj Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:12:49 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6470 Hopefully nobody will believe any campaign trail "concessions" made by Obama on this issue (in the unlikely even that he makes any). It doesn't count until it has happened in a way that is not easily reversed... Hopefully nobody will believe any campaign trail “concessions” made by Obama on this issue (in the unlikely even that he makes any). It doesn’t count until it has happened in a way that is not easily reversed…

]]> By: Bobster33 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6469 Bobster33 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:03:09 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6469 Maybe for once a couple (thousand) pot heads can make Obama do the right thing. Maybe for once a couple (thousand) pot heads can make Obama do the right thing.

]]> By: cassiodorus http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6468 cassiodorus Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:58:24 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6468 The candidates don't have to explain anything. Here's what the big boys say: "You have to vote for us, because Johnson isn't winning anything." Game over. Conformist voter behavior will change with disaster, as it did in Greece. The candidates don’t have to explain anything. Here’s what the big boys say: “You have to vote for us, because Johnson isn’t winning anything.” Game over. Conformist voter behavior will change with disaster, as it did in Greece.

]]> By: hoopless http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/08/21/colorado-where-obama-romney-and-pot-collide/#comment-6467 hoopless Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:47:29 +0000 http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/?p=2775#comment-6467 I'll quite enjoy listening to them explain why music fest stoners are a bigger threat to our security than their rich Wall Street con artist supporters, who have been robbing us blind (and will continue to do so). Get caught with MJ and darkish skin-go to jail. Crash the economy, costing billions to taxpayers-get a stern talking to. These 2 are just the ones to explain that to me... I’ll quite enjoy listening to them explain why music fest stoners are a bigger threat to our security than their rich Wall Street con artist supporters, who have been robbing us blind (and will continue to do so).

Get caught with MJ and darkish skin-go to jail.
Crash the economy, costing billions to taxpayers-get a stern talking to.

These 2 are just the ones to explain that to me…

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