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	<title>Comments on: Pot Legalization on the Ballot Dramatically Increased Youth Turnout</title>
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	<description>Legalize marijuana</description>
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		<title>By: the garden wizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>the garden wizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to see if youth turnout increases more with legalization initiatives than with medicinal MJ initiatives.  It seems on the face of it that younger voters are not satisfied with halfway measures, as have the older generation.  

Re police chief in Flint Mich.  Perhaps the city should calculate how much time and effort is being spent by the chief and dept enforcing federal law, then deduct this amount from pay and appropriations.  

Or, just fire the SOB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see if youth turnout increases more with legalization initiatives than with medicinal MJ initiatives.  It seems on the face of it that younger voters are not satisfied with halfway measures, as have the older generation.  </p>
<p>Re police chief in Flint Mich.  Perhaps the city should calculate how much time and effort is being spent by the chief and dept enforcing federal law, then deduct this amount from pay and appropriations.  </p>
<p>Or, just fire the SOB</p>
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		<title>By: Sanctimonious Purist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanctimonious Purist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the basic theme of this article is true.  I really want to see pot legalized on a par with alcohol.  Enough of the police state and the prison industrial complex.

BUT, please look at the &quot;before&quot; data for Washington, Oregon, and Colorado - all of them had youth turnout in 2008 that was significantly lower than the national average.  Also, the significant increase in youth turnout for 2012 as against 2008 merely brought their turnouts into the range of the national average.

So, while it&#039;s good news that the marijuana initiatives were probably a very strong factor in increasing youth turnout, we need more to get younger voters to increase their participation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the basic theme of this article is true.  I really want to see pot legalized on a par with alcohol.  Enough of the police state and the prison industrial complex.</p>
<p>BUT, please look at the &#8220;before&#8221; data for Washington, Oregon, and Colorado &#8211; all of them had youth turnout in 2008 that was significantly lower than the national average.  Also, the significant increase in youth turnout for 2012 as against 2008 merely brought their turnouts into the range of the national average.</p>
<p>So, while it&#8217;s good news that the marijuana initiatives were probably a very strong factor in increasing youth turnout, we need more to get younger voters to increase their participation.</p>
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		<title>By: jsprings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsprings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washington State also had a referendum to uphold or cancel the marriage equality bill signed into law.  It finally is being re-declared that the marriage equality side won.  I wonder if it would have been so without the marijuana crossover from the young voters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washington State also had a referendum to uphold or cancel the marriage equality bill signed into law.  It finally is being re-declared that the marriage equality side won.  I wonder if it would have been so without the marijuana crossover from the young voters?</p>
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		<title>By: RetirinInFive</title>
		<link>http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/11/08/pot-legalization-on-the-ballot-dramatically-increased-youth-turnout/#comment-6705</link>
		<dc:creator>RetirinInFive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad.  Must have missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad.  Must have missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about the flint vote yesterday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about the flint vote yesterday</p>
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		<title>By: RetirinInFive</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetirinInFive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link to the article wherein the police chief stated it was merely &#039;a symbolic vote.&#039;

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/11/flint_police_will_still_make_m.html#incart_river</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the article wherein the police chief stated it was merely &#8216;a symbolic vote.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/11/flint_police_will_still_make_m.html#incart_river" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/11/flint_police_will_still_make_m.html#incart_river</a></p>
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		<title>By: RetirinInFive</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetirinInFive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon -- here&#039;s a heads up for you.  (As if you don&#039;t already have enough things to monitor.)

On Tuesday 57% of the voters in the city of Flint voted to decriminalize possession of recreational amounts of pot.  The very next day the police chief comes on the local media and says the pursuit of pot smokers will continue unabated due to what he perceives to be conflicts between local, state and federal laws on maryjane.  

Mind you -- Flint is in a fiscal hole that is practically unimaginable.  We&#039;ve been on the verge of bankruptcy for several years and an emergency financial manager is in place, appointed by the governor.  Police have been cut to a ridiculously low level and crimes against persons and property are rampant.  And largely unsolved.

And yet in a place where armed robberies, rapes and murders get the official shrug due to lack of money/manpower, there seems to be enough resources to continue the war on harmless, non-violent pot smokers.

We were, and perhaps still are, the murder capitol of the country.  Apparently the law enforcement paradigm here is that violent crime will not be addressed until every single, solitary pot smoker is behind bars.

If the forfeiture provisions regarding marijuana were removed from the law, the local police would lack the incentive to pursue pot, and might actually be forced to deal with real crime.  As the law reads now, pot remains a cash cow, and petty local level law enforcement officials will let violent crime run rampant in order to keep that cash flowing into their coffers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8212; here&#8217;s a heads up for you.  (As if you don&#8217;t already have enough things to monitor.)</p>
<p>On Tuesday 57% of the voters in the city of Flint voted to decriminalize possession of recreational amounts of pot.  The very next day the police chief comes on the local media and says the pursuit of pot smokers will continue unabated due to what he perceives to be conflicts between local, state and federal laws on maryjane.  </p>
<p>Mind you &#8212; Flint is in a fiscal hole that is practically unimaginable.  We&#8217;ve been on the verge of bankruptcy for several years and an emergency financial manager is in place, appointed by the governor.  Police have been cut to a ridiculously low level and crimes against persons and property are rampant.  And largely unsolved.</p>
<p>And yet in a place where armed robberies, rapes and murders get the official shrug due to lack of money/manpower, there seems to be enough resources to continue the war on harmless, non-violent pot smokers.</p>
<p>We were, and perhaps still are, the murder capitol of the country.  Apparently the law enforcement paradigm here is that violent crime will not be addressed until every single, solitary pot smoker is behind bars.</p>
<p>If the forfeiture provisions regarding marijuana were removed from the law, the local police would lack the incentive to pursue pot, and might actually be forced to deal with real crime.  As the law reads now, pot remains a cash cow, and petty local level law enforcement officials will let violent crime run rampant in order to keep that cash flowing into their coffers.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of news Dems should listen too if they want to win elections. We need something positive to get people to the polls we cannot count on the GOP attacking Gays, Women and Hispanics the way they did this election even rabid dogs need to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of news Dems should listen too if they want to win elections. We need something positive to get people to the polls we cannot count on the GOP attacking Gays, Women and Hispanics the way they did this election even rabid dogs need to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: 4cdave</title>
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		<dc:creator>4cdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one could possibly have anticipated that giving people something to vote &lt;strong&gt;for&lt;/strong&gt; would encourage them to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one could possibly have anticipated that giving people something to vote <strong>for</strong> would encourage them to vote.</p>
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